{"id":40227,"date":"2021-11-06T13:51:07","date_gmt":"2021-11-06T10:51:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/bas-tv.md\/?p=40227"},"modified":"2021-11-06T13:51:07","modified_gmt":"2021-11-06T10:51:07","slug":"specialisti-olandezi-in-sanatate-in-vizita-la-institutii-medicale-din-r-moldova-am-avut-impresia-ca-ne-am-intors-cu-30-40-de-ani-in-urma","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bas-tv.md\/ro\/specialisti-olandezi-in-sanatate-in-vizita-la-institutii-medicale-din-r-moldova-am-avut-impresia-ca-ne-am-intors-cu-30-40-de-ani-in-urma\/","title":{"rendered":"Speciali\u0219ti olandezi \u00een s\u0103n\u0103tate, \u00een vizit\u0103 la institu\u021bii medicale din R. Moldova: \u201eAm avut impresia c\u0103 ne-am \u00eentors cu 30-40 de ani \u00een urm\u0103\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"bs-intro\"><strong><em>Doi speciali\u0219ti \u00een s\u0103n\u0103tate din Olanda \u0219i o voluntar\u0103 din aceast\u0103 \u021bar\u0103, care se ocup\u0103 de colectarea dona\u021biilor pentru persoane vulnerabile, au venit, pe cont propriu, \u00een timpul concediilor, \u00een R. Moldova pentru a oferi instruiri personalului din mai multe institu\u021bii medicale \u0219i centre de plasament. Multe aspecte pe care le-au descoperit \u00een sistemul de s\u0103n\u0103tate din R. Moldova i-au \u0219ocat, au povestit ei pentru <a href=\"https:\/\/www.zdg.md\/interviuri\/specialisti-olandezi-in-sanatate-in-vizita-la-institutii-medicale-din-r-moldova-am-avut-impresia-ca-ne-am-intors-cu-30-40-de-ani-in-urma\/\">ZdG.\u00a0<\/a><\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Venirea celor trei olandezi \u00een R. Moldova a fost posibil\u0103 datorit\u0103 comunit\u0103\u021bii \u201eNoroc Olanda\u201d, \u00een colaborare cu funda\u0163ia olandez\u0103 \u201eZGT Overzee\u201d.\u00a0<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Viorica Hagagg\u00a0<\/strong>este jurist\u0103 \u0219i co-fondatoare a Funda\u0163iei \u201eNoroc Olanda\u201d, o comunitate a moldovenilor din \u021a\u0103rile de Jos (Olanda). C\u00e2\u021biva ani \u00een urm\u0103, aceasta a intrat \u00een contact cu funda\u021bia \u201eZGT Overzee\u201d, care activeaz\u0103 pe l\u00e2ng\u0103 un spital din nordul Olandei. Ini\u021bial, \u00eempreun\u0103, ei au reu\u0219it s\u0103 aduc\u0103 \u00een R. Moldova lapte pentru copiii malnutri\u021bi, apoi echipament pentru spitale \u2013 mobilier, scaune rulante, materiale pentru incontinen\u021b\u0103. \u00cen timpul unei vizite de studiu din aceast\u0103 var\u0103, reprezentan\u021bii unor spitale din R. Moldova s-au expus c\u0103 ar avea nevoie de instruire \u015fi de expertiz\u0103 din vest. A\u0219a c\u0103 acum, cele dou\u0103 asocia\u021bii au adus la Chi\u0219in\u0103u doi speciali\u0219ti din \u021a\u0103rile de Jos, certifica\u021bi \u00een a oferi instruiri \u00een domeniul resuscit\u0103rii (Basic Life Support) pentru personal medical, \u015fi anume la Institutul de Medicin\u0103 Urgent\u0103, la Centrul Mamei \u0219i Copilului, precum \u0219i la o institu\u021bie pentru persoane cu dizabilit\u0103\u021bi din Nisporeni.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Gerdie Rouwmaat<\/strong>\u00a0este instructoare licen\u021biat\u0103 \u00een domeniul resuscit\u0103rii. El lucreaz\u0103 \u00een sal\u0103 de opera\u021bii. Anterior, a fost \u00een Egipt pentru a face munc\u0103 de voluntariat \u00een spitale. Spune c\u0103 atunci c\u00e2nd a fost \u00eentrebat\u0103 dac\u0103 poate veni \u00een R. Moldova, a \u00een\u021beles c\u0103 i-ar fi mai greu de una singur\u0103, a\u0219a c\u0103 a cerut ajutorul a doi colegi \u2013 Stef Horsthuis \u0219i Sylvia Geesink. Anul viitor urmeaz\u0103 s\u0103 revin\u0103 cu o \u00eentreag\u0103 echip\u0103 de chirurgi \u0219i asisten\u021bi. Cel mai mult au surprins-o aici motivele minore pentru care uneori sunt chemate ambulan\u021bele, dar \u0219i lipsa digitaliz\u0103rii.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Stef Horsthuis<\/strong>\u00a0este asistent specializat \u00een anesteziologie, instructor licen\u021biat \u00een domeniul resuscit\u0103rii. Face pentru prima dat\u0103 asemenea tip de voluntariat. A r\u0103mas uimit de faptul c\u0103 echipamentul din spitalele din R. Moldova este \u00eenvechit \u2013\u00a0<em>\u201ecam cu 30-40 de ani \u00een urm\u0103\u201d, dar\u00a0<\/em>\u0219i de rolul asisten\u021bilor medicali.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sylvia Geesink<\/strong>\u00a0este voluntar\u0103, colecteaz\u0103 de mul\u021bi ani lucruri pentru persoanele aflate \u00een nevoie din \u0163\u0103ri s\u0103race. \u00cen prezent, se ocup\u0103 de acela\u0219i lucru pentru oameni din R. Moldova. De asemenea, verific\u0103 unde sunt lipsurile aici \u0219i cum poate ajuta ea pentru a le acoperi.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-gallery columns-1 is-cropped\">\n<ul class=\"blocks-gallery-grid\">\n<li class=\"blocks-gallery-item\">\n<figure><a class=\"magnific-popup\" href=\"data:image\/svg+xml,%3Csvg%20xmlns='http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg'%20viewBox='0%200%20740%20555'%3E%3C\/svg%3E\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-1474025 lazyloaded\" src=\"https:\/\/www.zdg.md\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/IMG_5141-740x555.jpg\" sizes=\"(max-width: 740px) 100vw, 740px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.zdg.md\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/IMG_5141-740x555.jpg 740w, https:\/\/www.zdg.md\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/IMG_5141-360x270.jpg 360w, https:\/\/www.zdg.md\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/IMG_5141-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.zdg.md\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/IMG_5141-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.zdg.md\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/IMG_5141-2048x1536.jpg 2048w\" alt=\"\" width=\"740\" height=\"555\" data-id=\"1474025\" data-full-url=\"https:\/\/www.zdg.md\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/IMG_5141-scaled.jpg\" data-link=\"https:\/\/www.zdg.md\/?attachment_id=1474025\" data-ll-status=\"loaded\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"blocks-gallery-item__caption\">Sylvia, Gerdie \u0219i Stef, \u00een drum spre R. Moldova<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/figure>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>De ce decide un instructor din Olanda ca \u00een concediu, \u00een loc s\u0103 mearg\u0103 la odihn\u0103, s\u0103 vin\u0103 din cont propriu \u00een R. Moldova, ca s\u0103 ofere lec\u021bii pentru lucr\u0103torii din medicin\u0103 de aici?<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong><em>Gerdie<\/em>:<\/strong>\u00a0Eu sunt n\u0103scut\u0103 \u00een Olanda, o \u021bar\u0103 cu un sistem medical bine pus la punct. Eu nu am ales \u0163ara \u00een care s\u0103 m\u0103 nasc, \u00eens\u0103 m\u0103 bucur c\u0103 am parte de un a\u015fa sistem bun. Oamenii n\u0103scu\u0163i \u00een Moldova nu au avut parte de un sistem asem\u0103n\u0103tor cu cel din Olanda, ei au multe nevoi. \u0218i atunci au nevoie de ajutor. Asta e opinia mea. Iar dac\u0103 eu pot s\u0103 ajut, atunci o fac. Cu toat\u0103 pl\u0103cerea.<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Stef:<\/strong><\/em>\u00a0Este pentru prima dat\u0103 c\u00e2nd merg \u00een misiune de voluntariat. Eu ofer aceste instruiri \u00een Olanda \u0219i atunci de ce nu a\u0219 putea s\u0103 dau aceste lec\u021bii \u0219i \u00een Moldova? E destul de bizar\u2026 am adunat at\u00e2t de multe impresii. Pentru mine, sunt aspecte care nu par normale, \u00eentruc\u00e2t sunt n\u0103scut \u00een Olanda, iar acolo spitalele sunt bine dotate. Serviciul medical din Olanda este la un nivel foarte \u00eenalt, iar ceea ce v\u0103d aici e cam sub nivel. \u00cen mare parte, ceea ce vedem \u00een spitale sunt lucruri de baz\u0103. Eu sper c\u0103 instruirile vor contribui la o cre\u0219tere\u2026 E necesar s\u0103 existe spitale bune \u0219i s\u0103 fie un sistem bun de s\u0103n\u0103tate, accesibil pentru to\u021bi oamenii.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Sylvia:<\/em>\u00a0<\/strong>Din punctul meu de vedere, eu sunt bogat\u0103, nu pentru c\u0103 am bani, ci pentru c\u0103 am acces la ceea de ce am nevoie. \u0218i atunci c\u00e2nd eu pot aduna lucruri pe care oamenii le primesc \u00een alte \u021b\u0103ri, \u0219tiu c\u0103 e doar un mic ajutor pe care-l pot oferi. \u00cens\u0103 asta le face via\u021ba mai bun\u0103. E pu\u021bin, dar c\u00e2nd nu faci nimic, e \u0219i mai r\u0103u.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-gallery columns-1 is-cropped\">\n<ul class=\"blocks-gallery-grid\">\n<li class=\"blocks-gallery-item\">\n<figure><a class=\"magnific-popup\" href=\"data:image\/svg+xml,%3Csvg%20xmlns='http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg'%20viewBox='0%200%20740%20493'%3E%3C\/svg%3E\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-1474027 lazyloaded\" src=\"https:\/\/www.zdg.md\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/84A2762-740x493.jpg\" sizes=\"(max-width: 740px) 100vw, 740px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.zdg.md\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/84A2762-740x493.jpg 740w, https:\/\/www.zdg.md\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/84A2762-360x240.jpg 360w, https:\/\/www.zdg.md\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/84A2762-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.zdg.md\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/84A2762-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.zdg.md\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/84A2762-2048x1365.jpg 2048w\" alt=\"\" width=\"740\" height=\"493\" data-id=\"1474027\" data-full-url=\"https:\/\/www.zdg.md\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/84A2762-scaled.jpg\" data-link=\"https:\/\/www.zdg.md\/?attachment_id=1474027\" data-ll-status=\"loaded\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"blocks-gallery-item__caption\">Gerdie Rouwmaat \u0219i Stef Horsthuis la ZdG<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/figure>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Cum a fost gestionat\u0103 pandemia \u00een Olanda? Cum s-a reu\u0219it s\u0103 ajunge\u021bi la o rat\u0103 de vaccinare at\u00e2t de \u00eenalt\u0103 (peste 77% din adul\u021bi au fost vaccina\u021bi cu ambele doze), \u00een raport cu cea din R. Moldova, de exemplu?\u00a0\u00a0<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong><em>Viorica<\/em>:<\/strong>\u00a0\u00cen Olanda se opereaz\u0103 cu multe date, oamenii sunt bine informa\u0163i, deciziile sunt bine informate, dar exist\u0103 \u0219i mult\u0103 \u00eencredere \u00een autorit\u0103\u021bi. Ei au construit asta ani \u00eentregi. Oamenii \u00een\u021beleg c\u0103 sunt parte a societ\u0103\u021bii \u0219i vor s\u0103 contribuie la dep\u0103\u0219irea acestei crize. Toat\u0103 lumea face gre\u0219eli. Spre exemplu, gestul unui ministru din Olanda, v\u0103zut c\u0103 nu se respecta distan\u0163a social\u0103 la nunta lui pe timp de pandemie, a creat un val mare de revolt\u0103, pentru c\u0103 acolo fiecare trebuie s\u0103 fie responsabil \u2013 de la omul simplu p\u00e2n\u0103 la un ministru. Spre exemplu, strada e curat\u0103 nu numai pentru c\u0103 lucr\u0103torul respectiv vine s\u0103 o cure\u021be, ci pentru c\u0103 fiecare \u00ee\u0219i asum\u0103 grija la nivelul lui de responsabilitate. Exist\u0103 aceast\u0103 interconexiune \u0219i aceast\u0103 percep\u021bie despre cum societatea func\u021bioneaz\u0103 ca un \u00eentreg. Nivelul de integrare \u0219i responsabilitate a fiec\u0103rei persoane de acolo este \u00eenalt, de aici \u0219i abordarea crizei, precum \u0219i dep\u0103\u0219irea acesteia.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Gerdie<\/em>:<\/strong>\u00a0Noi am fost destul de bine \u015fi regulat informa\u021bi de c\u0103tre autorit\u0103\u021bi. Institu\u021biile de s\u0103n\u0103tate sunt conectate una cu alta \u0219i se informeaz\u0103 reciproc. De asemenea, c\u00e2nd situa\u021bia era critic\u0103, primeam zilnic la \u0219tiri informa\u021bii despre c\u00e2te dintre unit\u0103\u021bile de terapie intensiv\u0103 sunt ocupate de pacien\u021bi. Se \u00een\u021belege c\u0103 atunci c\u00e2nd unit\u0103\u0163ile de terapie intensiv\u0103 sunt pline, nu po\u021bi interna o persoan\u0103 care necesit\u0103 careva interven\u0163ii, care sunt tot grave. Oamenii se simt responsabili s\u0103-i protejeze pe cei din jur.\u00a0 \u0218i apoi, suntem at\u00e2t obosi\u021bi de COVID\u2026 Vrem s\u0103 ne \u00eentoarcem la vechiul \u201enormal\u201d, dar putem facem asta numai cu dorin\u021ba \u00eentregii popula\u021bii.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-gallery columns-1 is-cropped\">\n<ul class=\"blocks-gallery-grid\">\n<li class=\"blocks-gallery-item\">\n<figure><a class=\"magnific-popup\" href=\"data:image\/svg+xml,%3Csvg%20xmlns='http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg'%20viewBox='0%200%20740%20493'%3E%3C\/svg%3E\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-1474027 lazyloaded\" src=\"https:\/\/www.zdg.md\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/84A2762-740x493.jpg\" sizes=\"(max-width: 740px) 100vw, 740px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.zdg.md\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/84A2762-740x493.jpg 740w, https:\/\/www.zdg.md\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/84A2762-360x240.jpg 360w, https:\/\/www.zdg.md\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/84A2762-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.zdg.md\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/84A2762-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.zdg.md\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/84A2762-2048x1365.jpg 2048w\" alt=\"\" width=\"740\" height=\"493\" data-id=\"1474027\" data-full-url=\"https:\/\/www.zdg.md\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/84A2762-scaled.jpg\" data-link=\"https:\/\/www.zdg.md\/?attachment_id=1474027\" data-ll-status=\"loaded\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"blocks-gallery-item__caption\">Gerdie Rouwmaat \u0219i Stef Horsthuis la ZdG<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/figure>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Cum a fost gestionat\u0103 pandemia \u00een Olanda? Cum s-a reu\u0219it s\u0103 ajunge\u021bi la o rat\u0103 de vaccinare at\u00e2t de \u00eenalt\u0103 (peste 77% din adul\u021bi au fost vaccina\u021bi cu ambele doze), \u00een raport cu cea din R. Moldova, de exemplu?\u00a0\u00a0<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong><em>Gerdie<\/em>:<\/strong>\u00a0Nu exist\u0103 corup\u021bie \u00een sistemul medical olandez\u2026 C\u00e2nd este nevoie s\u0103 primesc tratament, nu trebuie s\u0103 pl\u0103tesc cuiva, pentru c\u0103 avem un sistem de asigur\u0103ri foarte bun. De la v\u00e2rsta de 18 ani exist\u0103 asigurare obligatorie. Sistemul medical este accesibil pentru to\u0163i oamenii. Atunci c\u00e2nd nu po\u021bi s\u0103 achi\u021bi asigurarea respectiv\u0103, guvernul te ajut\u0103. C\u00e2t despre remunerare, depinde de munca pe care o faci. Nu m\u0103 pl\u00e2ng de salariul meu, dac\u0103 asta e ceea ce vre\u021bi s\u0103 \u0219ti\u021bi (<em>r\u00e2de, n.r.<\/em>).<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-gallery columns-1 is-cropped\">\n<ul class=\"blocks-gallery-grid\">\n<li class=\"blocks-gallery-item\">\n<figure><a class=\"magnific-popup\" href=\"data:image\/svg+xml,%3Csvg%20xmlns='http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg'%20viewBox='0%200%20740%20555'%3E%3C\/svg%3E\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-1474036 lazyloaded\" src=\"https:\/\/www.zdg.md\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/IMG_4861-740x555.jpg\" sizes=\"(max-width: 740px) 100vw, 740px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.zdg.md\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/IMG_4861-740x555.jpg 740w, https:\/\/www.zdg.md\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/IMG_4861-360x270.jpg 360w, https:\/\/www.zdg.md\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/IMG_4861-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.zdg.md\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/IMG_4861-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/www.zdg.md\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/IMG_4861-2048x1536.jpg 2048w\" alt=\"\" width=\"740\" height=\"555\" data-id=\"1474036\" data-full-url=\"https:\/\/www.zdg.md\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/IMG_4861-scaled.jpg\" data-link=\"https:\/\/www.zdg.md\/?attachment_id=1474036\" data-ll-status=\"loaded\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"blocks-gallery-item__caption\">Stef Horsthuis face demonstra\u021bii \u00een contextul instruirilor oferite lucr\u0103torilor medicali din Moldova<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/figure>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Dac\u0103 a\u021bi compara ceea ce a\u021bi v\u0103zut \u00een R. Moldova cu ceea ce ave\u021bi dvs. acas\u0103, ce a\u021bi spune c\u0103 lipse\u0219te sistemului medical de la noi?\u00a0<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong><em>Gerdie<\/em>:<\/strong>\u00a0Cuno\u0219tin\u021be, sistem eficient, echipament. Noi am vizitat un centru de plasament \u0219i am r\u0103mas at\u00e2t de \u0219ocat\u0103. At\u00e2t de \u0219ocat\u0103! E teribil! \u00cen opinia mea, a\u0219a ceva nu este uman. Acolo este o singur\u0103 asistent\u0103 pentru 40 pacien\u021bi. M\u0103 doare at\u00e2t de mult s\u0103 v\u0103d asta. \u0218i mirosul\u2026 Acolo sunt oameni, ei sunt oameni\u2026<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Viorica<\/em>:\u00a0<\/strong>Oamenii cu dizabilit\u0103\u0163i sunt membri ai societ\u0103\u0163ii, respectul fa\u0163\u0103 de \u00eentreaga societate e \u00een interdependen\u0163\u0103 de cum societatea \u00ee\u015fi respect\u0103 persoanele cu dizabilit\u0103\u0163i. C\u00e2nd exist\u0103 o lips\u0103 de respect fa\u021b\u0103 de persoane cu dizabilit\u0103\u0163i \u0219i fa\u0163\u0103 de nevoile lor, nu putem vorbi de o societate puternic\u0103.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Gerdie<\/em>:<\/strong>\u00a0Un alt aspect important sunt ambulan\u021bele. Vorbeam cu un medic despre num\u0103rul de ambulan\u021be pe cap de locuitor \u015fi care sunt motivele pentru care cineva poate apela 112. Medicul m-a \u00eentrebat despre motivele pentru care serviciile de ambulan\u021b\u0103 pot fi cerute \u00een Olanda. Sigur c\u0103 po\u021bi apela 112, dar exist\u0103 un triaj \u0219i responsabilul, c\u00e2nd ridic\u0103 receptorul, te \u00eentreab\u0103 lucruri specifice. Dac\u0103 nu este caz de urgen\u0163\u0103, ambulan\u021ba nu vine la tine. Te po\u021bi duce la medicul de familie sau te po\u021bi deplasa singur la centrul de urgen\u021b\u0103. Medicul din Moldova cu care am discutat mi-a spus c\u0103 aici sunt chem\u0103ri la ambulan\u021be \u0219i pentru o durere de cap. Mi se pare incredibil. Dac\u0103 ambulan\u021ba este chemat\u0103 pentru o durere de cap, exist\u0103 riscul c\u0103 ambulan\u021ba nu va fi disponibil\u0103 pentru cazuri mai grave\u2026 Asta e r\u0103u pentru \u00eentreaga societate. E r\u0103u \u0219i din punct de vedere al costului, dar \u0219i a felului \u00een care e afectat mediul \u00eenconjur\u0103tor. \u0218i c\u00e2nd aud pe aici o ambulan\u021b\u0103, m\u0103 \u00eentreb oare cazul e \u00eentr-adev\u0103r unul de urgen\u0163\u0103?<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Stef:<\/strong><\/em>\u00a0Da, eu tot a\u0219 sublinia ceea ce s-a spus mai devreme \u2013 de ce ai chema ambulan\u021ba pentru o durere de cap? Plus, \u00eentr-una din vizite la spitale, medicul cu care am interac\u021bionat ne-a \u00eentrebat dac\u0103 suntem medici \u0219i am zis c\u0103 nu, suntem asisten\u021bi medicali. El s-a uitat \u00eentreb\u0103tor la noi, cu ideea c\u0103 nu e posibil ca asisten\u021bii s\u0103 ofere lec\u021bii doctorilor. Iar asta vorbe\u0219te mult despre rolul asisten\u021bilor medicali \u0219i despre c\u00e2t\u0103 autoritate au ei\/ele aici. Nu e ca \u00een Olanda\u2026<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Gerdie<\/em>:<\/strong>\u00a0Vom spune despre cum e \u00een spitalul nostru \u2013 noi nu putem lucra f\u0103r\u0103 un medic\u2026<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Stef<\/em>:<\/strong>\u00a0Dar nici un medic f\u0103r\u0103 noi.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Gerdie<\/em>:<\/strong>\u00a0\u0218i el \u0219tie asta. A\u0219a c\u0103, asisten\u0163ii medicali au un rol foarte important. Ei \u0219tiu c\u0103 este un lucru de echip\u0103. Pe parcursul instruirii s-a observat schimbarea atitudinii medicilor, dup\u0103 ce au v\u0103zut ce instruiri oferim noi \u015fi c\u0103 acelea\u015fi reguli se aplic\u0103 \u00een toate \u0163\u0103rile europene. Noi eram bine informa\u021bi c\u00e2nd am venit, am \u0219i \u00eenv\u0103\u021bat unele no\u021biuni \u00een limba rom\u00e2n\u0103. Schimbul de experien\u0163\u0103 referitor la procesele \u015fi protocoalele dintr-un spital olandez \u015fi unul din Moldova a fost foarte interesant. Medicii erau interesa\u0163i \u00een modul \u00een care se efectueaz\u0103 lucrul \u015fi care sunt protocoalele \u00een spitalele din Olanda.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-gallery columns-1 is-cropped\">\n<ul class=\"blocks-gallery-grid\">\n<li class=\"blocks-gallery-item\">\n<figure><a class=\"magnific-popup\" href=\"data:image\/svg+xml,%3Csvg%20xmlns='http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg'%20viewBox='0%200%20640%20480'%3E%3C\/svg%3E\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-1474037 lazyloaded\" src=\"https:\/\/www.zdg.md\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/IMG_4851-rotated.jpg\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.zdg.md\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/IMG_4851-rotated.jpg 640w, https:\/\/www.zdg.md\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/IMG_4851-360x270.jpg 360w\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"480\" data-id=\"1474037\" data-full-url=\"https:\/\/www.zdg.md\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/IMG_4851-rotated.jpg\" data-link=\"https:\/\/www.zdg.md\/?attachment_id=1474037\" data-ll-status=\"loaded\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"blocks-gallery-item__caption\">Viorica Hagagg \u0219i oaspe\u021bii din Olanda pe care i-a \u00eenso\u021bit prin R. Moldova<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/figure>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Dup\u0103 aceste c\u00e2teva zile de vizite, care a\u021bi spune c\u0103 a fost cel mai mare \u0219oc al dvs.?\u00a0<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong><em>Stef<\/em>:<\/strong>\u00a0Ce am v\u0103zut azi \u00eentr-un centru de plasament, unde o asistent\u0103 \u00eengrije\u0219te 40 persoane cu dizabilit\u0103\u0163i. \u0218i cred c\u0103 vorbesc pentru to\u021bi trei aici. Dar \u0219i ce am v\u0103zut \u00een sala de opera\u021bii pentru mine nu e normal. Standardele noastre \u00een Olanda poate sunt mai \u00eenalte, dar pentru mine a fost\u2026 cred c\u0103 vorbim despre o \u00eentoarcere cu 30-40 de ani \u00een urm\u0103, poate mai mult. \u00cen genere, dup\u0103 prima zi \u00een Moldova, am dormit doar patru ore\u2026<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Viorica<\/em>:<\/strong>\u00a0Eu l-am \u00eentrebat pe Stef de ce nu a dormit bine noaptea. Pentru c\u0103 trebuie de g\u0103sit c\u0103i de a ajuta \u00eembun\u0103t\u0103\u0163ire nivelul s\u0103lilor de opera\u021bii? \u0218i r\u0103spunsul a fost\u2026<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Stef<\/em>:\u00a0<\/strong>Nu,<strong>\u00a0<\/strong>m\u0103 tem s\u0103 nu ajung pacient \u0219i s\u0103 trebuiasc\u0103 s\u0103 m\u0103 opereze aici. Nu a\u0219 face asta. A\u0219 lua primul avion \u00eenapoi spre Olanda. A fost destul de \u0219ocant. Spun asta despre echipamentul pe care l-am v\u0103zut \u00een locurile unde noi am fost.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Gerdie<\/em>:<\/strong>\u00a0\u0218i \u00eenc\u0103 un aspect legat de pacien\u021bi. \u00cen Olanda, totul este digitalizat. C\u00e2nd ajunge un pacient la noi \u00een sala de opera\u021bii, verific\u0103m totul pe calculator. Vedem acolo totul. Aici, am v\u0103zut c\u0103 \u00eenc\u0103 se lucreaz\u0103 cu documente pe h\u00e2rtie. Dar cum s\u0103 \u0219tiu c\u0103 anume acest act apar\u021bine acestui pacient? Nu po\u021bi identifica pacientul\u2026 \u0218i asta e \u0219ocant pentru noi. Evident c\u0103 guvernul trebuie s\u0103 ia m\u0103suri \u00een acest caz, s\u0103 preia ini\u021biativa. Exist\u0103 anumite reguli\u2026\u00a0 Totul \u00eencepe de la lucruri simple, de baz\u0103. Ca s\u0103 po\u021bi construi ceva performant, este nevoie de o baz\u0103 bun\u0103.<\/p>\n<p>Sursa: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.zdg.md\/interviuri\/specialisti-olandezi-in-sanatate-in-vizita-la-institutii-medicale-din-r-moldova-am-avut-impresia-ca-ne-am-intors-cu-30-40-de-ani-in-urma\/\">zdg.md\u00a0<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Doi speciali\u0219ti \u00een s\u0103n\u0103tate din Olanda \u0219i o voluntar\u0103 din aceast\u0103 \u021bar\u0103, care se ocup\u0103 de colectarea dona\u021biilor pentru persoane vulnerabile, au venit, pe cont propriu, \u00een timpul concediilor, \u00een R. 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